During an appearance on NBC News’ “Meet the Press” on Sunday, Former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson pointed out his concerns regarding recent testimony before the biased January 6 Select Committee.
Even the left is now pointing out the obvious flaws in Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony. Johnson, who served during the Obama administration, is no friend to the right or to former President Donald Trump. In fact, during his interview on NBC, he referred to the January 6 hearings as a “profile in courage among women” and praised the hearing for being “choreographed exceptionally well for the attention span of the average American in 2022.”
Yet, he was still forced to call out Hutchinson’s testimony as likely untrue, asserting that the committee may have “overreached” by allowing her to make claims regarding an alleged incident involving Trump attempting to grab the wheel of the presidential vehicle.
Hutchinson, who served as an aide to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows during the final days of the Trump administration, recounted a story she was supposedly told about Trump attempting to commandeer the SUV he was riding in and lunging at a Secret Service agent when he was told he was not allowed to go to the Capitol building during the events of January 6, 2021.
Despite his praise for the committee, Johnson stated: “I’m concerned as the former federal prosecutor in me — that gets you a lot of cred these days on television — I’m concerned that the committee may have overreached on the incident in the vehicle.”
Regarding Hutchinson’s story, the former Obama admin official said that “It was colorful, it was vivid, it was collateral to the central charge…and it was secondhand hearsay.”
Trump himself has denied the story. Shortly after Hutchinson’s testimony, several mainstream media news outlets reported that former White House Deputy Chief of Staff and Secret Service agent Tony Ornato denied that the incident ever occurred, and was willing to testify under oath to contradict her story.
Johnson noted that he would have gone to the source of the story to verify it prior to making it public.
“The committee perhaps knows something that the rest of us don’t know. But before I went out with the second-hand hearsay, which is going to get a lot of attention, I’d want to know what the first-hand witness has to say,” he said.
Chuck Todd, host of “Meet the Press,” corrected Johnson that Hutchinson’s retelling of the story was actually a “third-hand account.”
“I think by the time she told us the story was technically, we’re in our third version. It’s a third-hand account,” Todd said.
“It depends on how you interpret hearsay. But, you know, that testimony would not have been admissible in a courtroom,” Johnson responded.
“And as you know, secret service agents don’t normally talk about what they see, what they hear from their protectees. I was a protectee of the secret service for three years. And they have to be in a position to hear and see all kinds of very sensitive things,” he added, casting further doubt on Hutchinson’s testimony.